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Autopilot + COM freq. over BT to RS232


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tobi - 10/11/2024 5:18:54 AM
moefly - 9/22/2024 4:55:46 PM
All,

I was very excited when I read about the feature in the Skydemon release note, went right into ordering parts and figured I share the experience here.
Top 1 priority for me was to get the radio (f.u.n.k.e. ATR833-II) connected. So I designed a 3d case that perfectly fits on top of the original Sub-D connector housing and uses the existing screw holes (only needed slightly longer screws). Once mounted, it sits below the connector at the back of the radio and doesn't block anything else / basically uses the same space.
I decided to use a HM-18 BLE to serial module. It is very power efficient and therefore I could easily use the 5V the radio provides on the Sub-D connector. The HM-18 is outputting TTL serial, hence I added a MAX3232 converter to provide the proper RS232 levels the radio expects.

Put everything together and it worked right away. For me it's almost a killer feature in Skydemon as it makes my life so much more simple during flight.
A big thx to Tim and his team for adding this feature!

In case anyone is interested in the 3d model and a more detailed info on connection and parts I used, you can find all of that here on printables:
https://www.printables.com/model/1015550-funke-atr833-ble-rs232-case

Hi moefly,

according to HM-18 datasheet the power supply voltage is from 1.9V to 3.7V.
The ATR833 has 5V output.
Do you use a voltage converter or do you just run out of specs?

Regards,
Tobi


The same module is on Amazon uk for £12, it says Vcc is 3.6V to 6.0V.

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moefly - 9/22/2024 4:55:46 PM
All,

I was very excited when I read about the feature in the Skydemon release note, went right into ordering parts and figured I share the experience here.
Top 1 priority for me was to get the radio (f.u.n.k.e. ATR833-II) connected. So I designed a 3d case that perfectly fits on top of the original Sub-D connector housing and uses the existing screw holes (only needed slightly longer screws). Once mounted, it sits below the connector at the back of the radio and doesn't block anything else / basically uses the same space.
I decided to use a HM-18 BLE to serial module. It is very power efficient and therefore I could easily use the 5V the radio provides on the Sub-D connector. The HM-18 is outputting TTL serial, hence I added a MAX3232 converter to provide the proper RS232 levels the radio expects.

Put everything together and it worked right away. For me it's almost a killer feature in Skydemon as it makes my life so much more simple during flight.
A big thx to Tim and his team for adding this feature!

In case anyone is interested in the 3d model and a more detailed info on connection and parts I used, you can find all of that here on printables:
https://www.printables.com/model/1015550-funke-atr833-ble-rs232-case

Hi moefly,

according to HM-18 datasheet the power supply voltage is from 1.9V to 3.7V.
The ATR833 has 5V output.
Do you use a voltage converter or do you just run out of specs?

Regards,
Tobi


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Hi all

If anybody is connecting the BT receiver to the TruTrak 385 autopilot, I would be interested to hear. It's currently getting GPS feed from an old and useless AvMap Geo Pilot II+ that I would like to replace
It seems that it may need engineer from avionics specialist but I would like to do it myself (flying non certified) because from what I see on Skydemon manual, it seems pretty simple. Pins connecting to Ground on both side, Rx Pin on autopilot connecting to Tx on BT receiver.
On Irxon BT578, pin 5 is Gd and 3 is Tx, and it can't be rewired. So it probably means to create a RS232 cable if rewired is needed on autopilot RS232. It may be better anyway to avoid plugging the BT receiver directly to the avionics (thinking that it may be a pain if anything has to be done on the receiver if not easily accessible). Any recommandation on the type of wire/cable to be used if needed (shield?)


thanks 

Edited 10/3/2024 7:59:16 AM by AlexLFDP
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Tim Dawson - 9/26/2024 9:51:37 AM
You can connect a FLARM traffic receiver to SkyDemon via Bluetooth so that the traffic it receives is displayed in SkyDemon. That's the only relationship between traffic and Bluetooth.

Thank you Tim.


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You can connect a FLARM traffic receiver to SkyDemon via Bluetooth so that the traffic it receives is displayed in SkyDemon. That's the only relationship between traffic and Bluetooth.
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Tim Dawson - 9/25/2024 10:23:55 AM
I can't commit to a time schedule, sorry. I need to re-engineer part of the Bluetooth stack before it will be practical, and that could be weeks or months.

Hi Tim,

What feature can we expect regarding the traffic?
For example : To send the traffic received from Safesky in SkyDemon to a Dynon Skyview (with a Bluetooth module connected)?

Thanks.

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I can't commit to a time schedule, sorry. I need to re-engineer part of the Bluetooth stack before it will be practical, and that could be weeks or months.
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Hello Tim,
have you got any time schedule about programming ability to send AP+COM and receive traffic via single BT-RS232? Just to know if i should wire second BT device or you can get it to work in near future?

Vitek

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Nicely done!
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All,

I was very excited when I read about the feature in the Skydemon release note, went right into ordering parts and figured I share the experience here.
Top 1 priority for me was to get the radio (f.u.n.k.e. ATR833-II) connected. So I designed a 3d case that perfectly fits on top of the original Sub-D connector housing and uses the existing screw holes (only needed slightly longer screws). Once mounted, it sits below the connector at the back of the radio and doesn't block anything else / basically uses the same space.
I decided to use a HM-18 BLE to serial module. It is very power efficient and therefore I could easily use the 5V the radio provides on the Sub-D connector. The HM-18 is outputting TTL serial, hence I added a MAX3232 converter to provide the proper RS232 levels the radio expects.

Put everything together and it worked right away. For me it's almost a killer feature in Skydemon as it makes my life so much more simple during flight.
A big thx to Tim and his team for adding this feature!

In case anyone is interested in the 3d model and a more detailed info on connection and parts I used, you can find all of that here on printables:
https://www.printables.com/model/1015550-funke-atr833-ble-rs232-case

Edited 9/22/2024 5:00:47 PM by moefly
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